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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Robert Varno | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Fantastic climbing on gorgeous, peachy rock - as perfectly described! Low traverse below the roof had me in a wide stem, and feeling like a ballerina! Word of the day: Classy :')
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Jason Lu | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Went down like a fine red
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Thu 16th May 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Craig, hugh sutherland | 35m | |||||
Mon 6th May 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Johnny Sullivan | 35m | |||||
So stoked I got this one. Hardest trad lead to date. Felt so good! Kachoong next? 😁
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Wed 1st May 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Amazing
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Tue 30th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with will | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Sun 28th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Michael | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Daniel Toone | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Fantastic
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Mitch Slocombe | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Connor Gundberg | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Nice. I don’t actually think any of the moves in this are that bad, but it’s intimidating and long. I reckon if you meditate at the rest spots and focus on breath work for the moves this climb becomes a lot easier. I ran it out quite a lot after the traverse but doing so really did make the crux feel quite easy. Probably would’ve freaked out if I stayed there to place gear. I also no longer have imposter syndrome about trad climbing because in my mind Pilot Error isn’t trad.
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Fri 26th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Ash Garrett | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Another old battle won! Proud send. Such a flowy classy climb.
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Thu 25th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Aurora Pandora | 35m | |||||
Wed 24th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Mon 22nd Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Ally, james ritchie | 35m | |||||
This totally lives up to the hype. Very satisfying onsight.
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Sat 20th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Wed 17th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Freya lamont | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Amazing route! Pretty stoked with the onsight of this one
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Sat 13th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Donna | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Blueys face climbing on great gear, what's not to love?
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Fri 12th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Found the gear fiddly, great route!
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Thu 11th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 Easy | ★★★ Tannin - with Will Turner, Nat, Jarrah Turton | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Beltah!!!
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Wed 10th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Sam Guest | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Superb climbing, great gear. Something I'd eyed off for a while!
Keen to redo the climb when I'm less stressed about trying to succeed! |
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Sat 6th Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin — 2 attempts - with Jarrod Ingle, James Vinnicombe | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Got past the roof on the second burn, need to keep my mental in check and be okay with falling on bomber gear
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Tue 2nd Apr 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Issy Jukes | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Even better the second time around! Beautiful finish to an eventful day
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Sun 31st Mar 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 Easy | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Feels like a sport climb but on gear.
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Sat 30th Mar 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Fri 29th Mar 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Tue 19th Mar 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Lisa Posse | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
Sat 2nd Mar 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
I guess it’s pretty good
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Sun 25th Feb 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Jim Lister | 35m | |||||
Sun 28th Jan 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Andrew Dolan, Patrick | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
This has to be one of the best single pitches I've ever done. The experience was only so smooth because of some crucial beta from Andrew and Patrick — I was pretty nervous and scared so wanted to know about the gear and cruxes... So thankful to those guys! It's not over till it's over, but the intimidating looking part is not that hard.
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Tim Schofield | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
#repeat After flailing on Wraith.
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Sat 27th Jan 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Tim Schofield | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Very fun and technical moves up and over the traverse. More thoughtful than Tannin Direct but not as muscular.
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Mon 15th Jan 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with arthur | 35m | |||||
Thu 11th Jan 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 Easy | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
Sun 7th Jan 2024 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Sun 31st Dec 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Thomas Zambon | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Will Kluck | 35m | |||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Alfonso Talavera | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Thu 7th Dec 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Otto K | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with jonah ovadia | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Took a monster plummet from just after the roof which ripped a cam out. Then reclimbed up on my gear and went to the top. Lovely route with quite good pro. The traverse is very fun
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Sat 2nd Dec 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 Easy | ★★★ Tannin - with Jack Leerson | 35m | |||||
Traverse under the roof and passing through the crux wasn't too bad. Afterwards got pumped near the end and didn't want to commit so down climbed a little and took a small fall on a bomber nut.
Next time if I get pumped again in the same spot I'll push through.
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Jess Cotton | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Awesome climb, first trad 19.
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Sat 25th Nov 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Herman Potgieter | 35m | |||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Frank Polanco | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
Sun 19th Nov 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with John Capretta | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Lovely stuff. Keen for the redpoint next time.
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Mon 13th Nov 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Wed 1st Nov 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Sun 22nd Oct 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Alex Hayward | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Thu 19th Oct 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Sun 8th Oct 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Henry Orton | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Really nice moves on this one! Good gear in all the right places. Offsets were hard to remove and caused a lot of swearing from my follower
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Fri 6th Oct 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Cymru Rob | 35m | ★ Good | ||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Thu 5th Oct 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Stoked to get this, had to fight for it. Pretty straightforward until the committing traverse moves. Made the moves then quickly slammed in a green cam, which was thankfully the right size. Then cool moves up through the overhang. I didnt expect the next part to be so tricky, then it was easier moves while pumped above fiddly gear. Full value!
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Tue 3rd Oct 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Sat 30th Sep 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with wilbur | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
first night climb
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Thu 28th Sep 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Sun 24th Sep 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Diego | 35m | |||||
Sun 17th Sep 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Jack Prowse | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
So stoked, awesome route
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Sat 16th Sep 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Simmo | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Wow, amazing rock and climbing at the grade. How did I wait so long before trying this one? Aesthetic, technical and interesting.
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Thu 7th Sep 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Jess C | 35m | |||||
Beta: learned from last time and went up the correct flake and managed rope drag way better. After much contemplation (and beta from Jess) traversed the low line using a chunky right hand - a straightforward move compared to the terrifying step across up by the roof. Straightforward climbing (and thoughtful but solid) gear from there.
Mood: tbh I started this climb a bit intimidated, recalling how gripped I was last time. I was also under some pressure since I'd dragged a sore Jess up 'Horn Piece' on our rest day, with limited time before rain. I rested a lot and tried to relax in every good stance. It was a big relief to find the traverse went without too much pump. Happy to clean up the tick but don't think I'll come back in a hurry. Gear: lots of medium wires and 2x #.5-1 cams, 1x #.4, #2. ~7x draws + 2x double length runners. |
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Fri 1st Sep 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with margot | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Fri 18th Aug 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Easy start, harder crux through the overhang. 19 is an average across the two. Got nice and pumped
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Sat 12th Aug 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Shane V | 35m | |||||
Wed 2nd Aug 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Thu 15th Jun 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
Quick top rope lap.
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Sun 11th Jun 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Darren, Rachel | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Wed 24th May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Sun 21st May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with YannChristopher | 35m | |||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with nick fabian | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Very happy with this send on this mega route. Long route requiring good footwork, hard pulling and commitment. Was psyched after watching Ben Cossey on groove train the night before
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Mon 15th May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Sun 14th May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Terence | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Good pro, excellent moves, lovely position
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Sat 13th May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
Clean up for Ziggy
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Mon 8th May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Thu 4th May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Mon 1st May 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Thu 27th Apr 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
19 ~18 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Tue 25th Apr 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Josh Ellis | 35m | |||||
You don’t need to smoke DMT to experience ego death.
At this point I already wanted to go home and just be done with how much I felt this weekend was a failure. No amount of rock warriors way pages or self talk could snap me out of it. With all the failed attempts and 0 sends, it was as if subconscious insecurities climbing/non climbing related came to the surface, creating a negative feedback loop. At moments it felt like a bad ACID TRIP. I wanted to end this loop by jumping on my 3rd trad lead and hardest to date. Coming over the crux I shakily placed feet blindly and realised holy fuck I can't see the foot holds, as I screamed out “I am fucking scared” - shortly after I took my first trad whip. My gear works. Josh sent me back up on TR and made the moves cruisey. I'll be back for this no doubt. Would be fair to say this weekend felt like it broke me and some barriers of important self inquiry, post ego death trad fall, there was just nothing left to give except the purification from my tears and the head space reset which followed suit. Reminders/lessons:
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★ Very Good | ||||
Hard climb for pitch 6.
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Sun 23rd Apr 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Jeremy Marks | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Brilliant sustained climbing on gorgeous rock
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Issy Jukes, Angus | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Last climb at Arapiles, set as a target for eyeing up Carpe Diem. Went very smoothly with no issues. Great pro. Line was smooth and flowed well with relatively simple moves.
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Night lap this time. Alwaya mega
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Lauren Hunter | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Soo good!! Beautiful and sustained climb all the way
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Pedro Rocha | 35m | |||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
Great climb, good gear, nice rests.
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | |||||
19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Sage | 35m | |||||
Best trad climb maybe so far... Very good!
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19 Easy | ★★★ Tannin - with Callum Brett, Mana, Kachow | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
What a king line! Great pro and great holds where you need them. First lead at the grade and takes my favourite trad lead to date. Cant recommend this enough!
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Sophia Smirnov | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Sun 2nd Apr 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Hamish | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Sat 1st Apr 2023 - Arapiles | |||||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Joe | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
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19 | ★★★ Tannin | 35m | ★★★ Mega Classic | ||||
Amazing climb, a bit soft for the grade
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19 | ★★★ Tannin - with Andrew, Dmitry Linkov | 35m | ★★★ Classic | ||||
Great climb! Tricky traverse but it is not the crux. Delicate moves after you passed the roof and not much good gear after you placed 2 good pieces after the roof. Tope roped it about 2 years ago but could not remember a thing so it was like an onsight for me
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