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C |
★★ Klettersteig Gauablickhöhle
![]() | 260m | Sulzfluh | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 3.º Oct 2021 | ||||
Die Höhle in der Wand macht den Steig einzigartig!
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C |
★★ Klettersteig Gauablickhöhle
![]() | 260m | Sulzfluh | Vie 30.º Dic 2005 | |||||
Winterbegehung mit Pickel und Steigeisen. Tolle "Eistropfsteine" in der Höhle.
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7a |
Incastro Amaro
![]() | 50m | Albigna | Lun 14.º Sep 2009 | |||||
I went left to the arete where the crack goes to the right.
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5c |
★★★ North Ridge (5c variant)
![]() | Piz Badile | ★★★ Megaclásica | Mar 11.º Ag 2009 | |||||
Up, bivy, then down with Mike over 2 days.
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6a+ |
★ Alpenkönig
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4
6a+
55m
5
6a
55m
6
6a
55m
7
5a
25m
8
5c+
55m
9
5c
25m
10
2a
60m
11
6a
45m
12
6a+
45m
13
6a+
35m
14
5a
55m
15
5b
55m
16
5a
50m
| 620m, 28 | Drusenfluh | Medio | Sáb 11.º Jun 2022 | ||||
zml gewollte/gesuchte Linie, immer wieder verwirrend in der Wegfindung, weil oft nicht einer logischen Linie gefolgt wird.
Die ersten 3 Seillängen können über ein Schrofenband umgangen werden. |
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6c 6a+ |
★ Alpenkönig
![]() | 750m, 28 | Drusenfluh | ★★ Muy buena | Lun 1.º Ag 2022 | ||||
5th pitch is 6c
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6c 6a+ |
★ Alpenkönig
![]() | 750m, 28 | Drusenfluh | ★★ Muy buena | Mié 24.º Ag 2022 | ||||
6a+ stimmt nur wenn mandie Crux A0 macht oder links umgeht. sonst ~6c
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5a |
★★★ North Ridge
![]() | 1200m, 20 | Piz Badile | ★★★ Megaclásica | Dom 6.º Ag 2023 | ||||
Entered the Ridge in the dark too early. Roped up after pitch #4. Did Running belay to the top (~3h) except 10m (crux). Great line. Great day.
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6c+ |
★★★ Face-to-Face
![]() | 150m, 15 | Albigna | ★★★ Clásico | Vie 29.º Ag 2008 | ||||
10Sl (inkl 6c+), mit Mirko, Einstieg über Spidi, SRII
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6b 6a+ |
★★ Via Leni
![]() | 150m, 14 | Albigna | ★ Buena | Lun 20.º Jul 2009 | ||||
Swung leads. (Date not exact -- was late July 2009 trip to the Alps.)
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6b 6a+ |
★★ Via Leni (Leni)
![]() | 150m, 14 | Albigna | Lun 25.º Ag 2008 | |||||
5Sl, mit Anika
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5c |
★★★ Lasciamili
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5a
30
2
5c
20
| 50m, 10 | Albigna | Lun 25.º Sep 2023 | |||||
This is the route we intended to do but did only first two pitches. Should have headed left of second dihedral after this, but went up between dihedrals. Dave linked both pitches.
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5a |
★★★ New Strubich (New Strubich P1)
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1
5a
50m
| 50m, 9 | Chlein Seehorn | Sáb 6.º Ag 2022 | |||||
Nass. Wir kommen wieder!
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5c |
★★★ New Strubich
![]() | 430m, 9 | Chlein Seehorn | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 9.º Sep 2023 | ||||
First 2 pitches and last section quite enjoyable. Middle section is more walking than climbing. Panorama priceless.
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6b+ |
★★★ Excalibur
![]() | 35m, 4 | Matlusch | Mié 13.º Mayo 2015 | |||||
really nice crag, please don't bolt the middle part
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6b+ |
★★★ Excalibur
![]() | 35m, 4 | Matlusch | ★★★ Clásico | Vie 24.º Mayo 2019 | ||||
Climbed parts on the right on the first pitch as I didn't have any cams with me...will def do it again once my gear arrived, stellar line.
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6a+ |
Westwand
![]() | 120m, 1 | Seeturm | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 15.º Sep 2019 | ||||
Erste Seillänge sehr schön, danach z.T. brüchige Passagen. Sehr gut abgesichert. Kaum zusäzliches Material notwendig.
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6a |
★★ Nasi Goreng
![]() | 290m, 1 | Albigna | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 29.º Jul 2023 | ||||
Coole Linie, aber weit schlechter abgesichert als im SAC GR Führer angegeben
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4c |
★★★ Dietrich-Mader Führe Direkt
![]() | 490m, 1 | Drusentürme Süd | ★★★ Megaclásica | Sáb 25.º Sep 2021 | ||||
Ganz großes Rätikon-Kino!
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6a |
★ Arabella
![]() | 250m | Albigna | ★ Buena | Sáb 15.º Ag 2009 | ||||
The 5b pitch was harder than the 6a.
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6a |
★ Arabella
![]() | 250m | Albigna | ★ Buena | Sáb 15.º Ag 2009 | ||||
The 5b pitch was harder than the 6a.
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6a |
★ Arabella
![]() | 250m | Albigna | ★ Buena | Sáb 15.º Ag 2009 | ||||
The 5b pitch was harder than the 6a.
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5c 6a |
★★ NE Ridge Direct Variante Nigg (NE Ridge Direct (Nigg))
![]() | Albigna | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 16.º Ag 2009 | |||||
A classic thin arete, with Rolts.
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4 |
★ WSW Ridge (Albigna Geist)
![]() | 800m | Albigna | ★ Buena | Mié 22.º Jul 2009 | ||||
Another climb on my trip. We made a mistake, and bailed at the fore-summit -- thinking Bacun was Balzet, and we didn't have time to finish.
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6- |
★★ North West Ridge
![]() | 1000m | Albigna | ★ Buena | Mar 25.º Jul 2006 | ||||
Bailed out two pitches above roof because of rain.
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6a+ 6b |
★★ Trad
![]() | 20m | Flüelatal | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 4.º Ag 2018 | ||||
Soft
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7b |
★★ Sendero luminoso
![]() | Länta | ★★ Muy buena | Mié 15.º Oct 1997 | |||||
Alles im ersten Versuch vorgestiegen.
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6a |
★★★ Via Cassin
![]() | 800m | Piz Badile | ★★★ Megaclásica | Mié 1.º Ag 1990 | ||||
Classic
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6a |
★★★ Via Cassin
![]() | 800m | Piz Badile | ★★★ Clásico | Mar 14.º Jul 2015 | ||||
Alternating lead/second
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6a |
Gabarrou-Piz Bianco west
![]() | 600m | Bernina Gruppe | Medio | Sáb 15.º Ag 2020 | ||||
Nicht zu unterschätzende alpin tour. - ziemlich brüchig
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6a |
★★ NE Ridge Direct Variante Nigg
![]() | Albigna | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 30.º Jul 2022 | |||||
Really nice pitches to the NE ridge. No additional gear necessary. Plaisir.
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6b |
★★ Katharsis
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1
6a+
30m
2
6a+
25m
3
5b
35m
4
5a
35m
5
6b
35m
6
6a+
25m
7
6a
50m
| 240m | Zervreilahorn | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 30.º Jul 2022 | ||||
1., 5. und 6. Seillängen sind sehr schön
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6a |
★★★ Via Cassin
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1
5c
25
escalada de primero por
Franz
5
5c
40
escalada de primero por
Franz
7
5b
50
escalada de primero por
Franz
8
5a
50
escalada de primero por
Franz
12
6a
50
escalada de primero por
Franz
14
5a
50
escalada de primero por
Franz
16
5c
40
escalada de primero por
Franz
18
4c
50
escalada de primero por
Franz
19
5a
50
escalada de primero por
Franz
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| 850m | Piz Badile | ★★★ Megaclásica | Lun 1.º Ag 2022 | ||||
Vor einigen Jahren betrachtete man diese imposante und von weitem unbekletterbare Nordostwand. Damals unvorstellbar und nun war es dann doch soweit. Perfektes stabiles Wetterfenster, juter Kletterpartner und nen fettes Stück Schinken. Was braucht man mehr.
Start um 03:35 von der Sasc Furä. 05:20 Querung auf dem Band 06:00 Einstieg in die Originallinie (die Rebuffat Variante hatte bereits 2 Seilschaften). 09:00 mit einigem Stau vor der ersten Schlüsselstelle im unteren Teil erreichten wir nach dem Schuttband das "Frühstückplatzerl" vor der eigentlichen Schlüssellänge 11. (6+) 12:30 Einstieg in die Ausstiegskamine (L17) 14:40 Ausstieg auf die Nordkante 18:30 Ankunft an der Gianetti und nach einer kurzen Pause Abstieg zum Bagni di Masino 22:00 Ankunft am Bad und kurze Katzenwäsche mit frischem warmen Thermalwasser |
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6a |
★★★ Via Cassin
![]() | 800m | Piz Badile | Mar 16.º Ag 2022 | |||||
Classic route
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6a |
★★ NE Ridge Direct Variante Nigg
![]() | Albigna | ★ Buena | Vie 7.º Jul 2023 | |||||
6c |
★★ Medea
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1
6b
25
2
5b
25
3
6c
25
4
6c
30
5
5a+
25
6
5c
20
7
5c+
25
8
6a+
35
9
5b
20
10
6a
30
| 260m | Zervreilahorn | ★★★ Clásico | Sáb 15.º Jul 2023 | ||||
We did the 2nd and 3rd pitch as one and also combined the 6th and 7th pitch. Makes more sense and saves time
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6a |
★★★ Via Cassin
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1
5c
2
4a
3
3b
4
3c
5
5c
6
5a
7
5b
8
5a
9
4b
10
3b
11
2
12
6a
13
5b+
14
5a
15
5b
16
5c
Severe hail storm of one hour not in forecast. Got hammered with hail and rocks for 1h and got soaked and cold. Bailed climb!
17
5b
18
4c
19
5a
20
4c
21
4c
| 800m | Piz Badile | Dom 16.º Jul 2023 | |||||
Cimbed to pitch 15 when a fierce hail storm hit us. 1h of Ice and stone fall hammered us and left us with bruises and hole in jackets after stone fall. One of my worst experiences in +35 Y of climbing. Happy to be alive.
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5b+ |
★★★ Via Classica P1
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5b+
| 250m | Albigna | Lun 21.º Ag 2023 | |||||
Retreat after the first pitch.
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6a+ |
★★★ Schweizerpfeiler
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1
4c
40
Früh genug nach rechts queren.
2
6a+
20
Eine der Schlüsselstellen (Platte).
3
5c+
35
4
5b
50
5
2
30
6
5c
40
Gruselige leicht überhängende Verschneidung.
7
5c+
25
8
5c
50
Unbequemer Kamin/Körperriss (mentale Schlüsselstelle). Nach Zwischenstand (1 BH nach ca. 30m) easy bis zur Vereinigung mit "Sonnenpfeiler".
9
5c+
30
10
6a+
30
11
6a
35
Die alten Holzkeile können gut durch Friends ergänzt werden. Schwierigste Stellen gebohrt.
12
4c
25
| 410m | Drusentürme Süd | ★★★ Megaclásica | Vie 6.º Oct 2023 | ||||
Ganz großer Rätikon-Klassiker. Meist sehr rauher und griffiger Fels. Sehr fordernde Kamin-Längen.
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6a+ |
★★ Tabula rasa
![]() | 150m | Dachberg | ★★★ Clásico | Sáb 3.º Feb 2024 | ||||
Super Clean-Route. Ingesamnt fünf Zwischenhaken. Wir hatten Cams 0.3-3 mit 0.5-2 gedoppelt.
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6b |
★★ Über dem Abgrund
![]() | 35m, 15 | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★ Buena | Vie 28.º Jun 2013 | ||||
quite pumping
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5c |
★★ Herbstsonne
![]() | 260m, 12 | San Vittore | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 11.º Mar 2023 | ||||
Beim Zustieg noch 2 Sl über die untere Platte
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7b+ |
★★★ Lanciamira
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1
5a
30
2
5c
40
3
6b
30
4
5c
45
5
6c
35
6
6a
40
7
6a+
50
8
4a
50
9
6a
30
10
6b
30
11
6b
40
12
6b
30
13
6b+
35
14
6c
30
15
7b+
20
16
6b
40
17
6b+
50
| 630m, 12 | Drusenfluh | ★★★ Megaclásica | Sáb 15.º Jul 2023 | ||||
6 Stars, Future Classic, Hidden Gem... If you don't love this route then you don't love climbing.
How to even begin? Best 6a+ and 6b+ pitch I've ever climbed. Was cussing my way up the wall at how good it all was. Immaculate limestone, bomber features. Cozy belays to free the toes. 7b+ crux pitch reminiscent of Yosemite's Separate Reality, cutting feet 500m in the air with nothing but the void below. Cramps in forearm hips lats and calves. Shade til 1p. What an ultra high value climb. Thank you Marcel for bolting this one! 17th ascent |
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6a |
★★ Blitzidee
![]() | 30m, 11 | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★★ Muy buena | Vie 28.º Jun 2013 | ||||
Diverse climbing with tricky initial slab and interesting little knobs in the final wall. Can be linked into single pitch.
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6a |
★★ Blitzidee
![]() | 30m, 11 | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 9.º Mayo 2021 | ||||
Schwierig!
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7c |
Prix Garantie
![]() | 220m, 9 | Kirchlispitzen South | Dom 8.º Oct 2023 | |||||
First time on Ratikon
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★★ ?
![]() | 7 | Nido | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | |||||
Schöne tour mit pumpigem Ausstieg. Wird eine 7a oder 7a+ sein.
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6a |
★★ Gernots Warzenplatte
![]() | 15m, 6 | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★★★ Clásico | Jue 2.º Abr 2020 | ||||
Like bunny bucket buttress =)
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7b+ |
★★★ Axiom
![]() | 25m, 6 | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★★★ Clásico | Sáb 2.º Sep 2023 | ||||
Stays in the shade till 13.30
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6c |
★★ Geizhals
![]() | 8m, 5 | St. Luzisteig | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 26.º Feb 2017 | ||||
I was too tired to do anything today hahaha
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6c |
★★ Pythagoras
![]() | 30m, 5 | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 2.º Sep 2023 | ||||
Didnt really read the description and did this without gear. felt quite runout
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6b |
The Kick
![]() | 6m, 4 | Plaun da Lej | Medio | Vie 16.º Ag 2019 | ||||
Kick my ass
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5c+ 5b |
★★ Piccolo
![]() | 130m | Albigna | ★ Buena | Vie 14.º Ag 2009 | ||||
Delicate slabbing leads to a summit.
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5c+ 5b |
★★ Piccolo
![]() | 130m | Albigna | ★ Buena | Vie 14.º Ag 2009 | ||||
Delicate slabbing leads to a summit.
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6b |
★★ Warzenschwein
![]() | 35m | Matlusch | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 1.º Jul 2012 | ||||
Overhang, Edge, Crack and Chickenheads = superb
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6a |
★ Bananäschalä
![]() | 32m | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★ Buena | Vie 28.º Jun 2013 | ||||
The move past the bulge is trickier than it looks. Can be linked into single pitch.
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6b |
★ n/a
![]() | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★ Buena | Vie 28.º Jun 2013 | |||||
still good friction
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6a+ |
★ Rechtshänder
![]() | 40m | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | Medio | Vie 28.º Jun 2013 | ||||
Loose rock in overhang. Watch the rope drag when climbing in a single pitch.
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6c |
★ Hundeverbot
![]() | 25m | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★★ Muy buena | Vie 28.º Jun 2013 | ||||
quite polished to first anchors. Then one committing move, the rest are jugs and better than expected.
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6a+ 6b |
★★ Nuova Via Per Claudia
![]() | 180m | Albigna | ★★ Muy buena | Lun 25.º Ag 2008 | ||||
4Sl, mit Mirko
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6a |
★★ Herbst-Zeit los
![]() | 25m | Crest | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 25.º Abr 2015 | ||||
#jan-belay
bouldary start
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6a+ |
★ Fingerling
![]() | 10m | Crest | ★ Buena | Sáb 25.º Abr 2015 | ||||
#jan-belay
crimpy
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6a |
★ Tränentanz
![]() | 15m | Crest | ★ Buena | Sáb 25.º Abr 2015 | ||||
#jan-belay
some loose rock at the end
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6b |
★★ NeuFundWand
![]() | 20m | Crest | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 25.º Abr 2015 | ||||
6b |
★★ Emmentaler
![]() | 20m | Sut Rens | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 26.º Abr 2015 | ||||
#jan-belay
nice monos
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5c+ |
★ Frühlingserwachen
![]() | 20m | Sut Rens | ★ Buena | Dom 26.º Abr 2015 | ||||
7b |
★ Heilandzack
![]() | 15m | Persaxplatten | ★ Buena | Sáb 29.º Ag 2015 | ||||
Short and hard sequence
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5c+ 6a+ |
★★★ NE-Grat
![]() | 350m | Zervreilahorn | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 3.º Jul 2016 | ||||
We spent to much time on the two first routes so ran out of time.
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7a+ |
★ Liumsch
![]() | 10m | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | ★ Buena | Jue 25.º Ag 2016 | ||||
Too many mosquitoes and ticks...
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7a+ |
★ Liumsch
![]() | 10m | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | Jue 25.º Ag 2016 | |||||
Quite hard to find the right beta
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7 |
★ Sunnablendi
![]() | 10m | Grüsch | ★ Buena | Sáb 3.º Sep 2016 | ||||
Etwas schmierig und man muss schon etwas Griffe suchen, aber doch recht schön.
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8- |
★ Pink Panther
![]() | 10m | Grüsch | ★ Buena | Sáb 3.º Sep 2016 | ||||
Falsche Beta, hat sich viel schwerer als 8- angefühlt
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8- |
★ Pink Panther
![]() | 10m | Grüsch | ★ Buena | Sáb 3.º Sep 2016 | ||||
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7+ |
★★ Höch Sibner
![]() | 10m | Grüsch | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 3.º Sep 2016 | ||||
Griffe nicht gefunden...
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7+ |
★★ Höch Sibner
![]() | 10m | Grüsch | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 3.º Sep 2016 | ||||
Wenn man weiß wie ists dann schon schön
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7+ |
★ Knoblix
![]() | 9m | Grüsch | Medio | Sáb 3.º Sep 2016 | ||||
Etwas fingerlastiges Ding
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5a |
★★ Moderne Zeiten
![]() | Albigna | Medio | Dom 25.º Sep 2016 | |||||
Teilweise kein Bohrhaken zwischen den Ständen gefunden. Topo aus dem SAC Führer stimmt nicht so recht. Insgesamt keine Wiederholung wert.
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6c+ |
★★ Le préféré
![]() | 20m | Nido | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | ||||
Just a little too pumped to do the jump to the top jug
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6b+ |
★★ Nido de Condor
![]() | 20m | Nido | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | ||||
The style reminded me a little of Sardinia
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6c+ |
★★ Le préféré
![]() | 20m | Nido | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | ||||
Hab den Dyno nicht gehalten :-/
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6c+ |
★★ Le préféré
![]() | 20m | Nido | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | ||||
Mit der Leiste zum zwischengreifen dann etwas einfacher.
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6c |
★★★ Banana oscura
![]() | 20m | Nido | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | ||||
Anfang war etwas verwirrend...
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6c |
★★★ Banana oscura
![]() | 20m | Nido | ★★★ Clásico | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | ||||
Interessante Tour. Henklig und dann Verschneidung/Riss.
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6b+ |
★★ Nido de Condor
![]() | 20m | Nido | ★★ Muy buena | Dom 16.º Oct 2016 | ||||
Überhängend an Henkeln.
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7b+ |
★ Overkill
![]() | 15m | Plaun da Lej | ★ Buena | Mié 13.º Jul 2016 | ||||
I'm not sure if I climbed that one or another, but a good hard wall over all, especially for summertime.
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7a |
Standsucher
![]() | St. Luzisteig | Dom 26.º Feb 2017 | ||||||
Hat sich schwerer als eine 7a angefühlt, wobei sich heute alles schwer angefühlt hat
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7a |
Standsucher
![]() | St. Luzisteig | Dom 26.º Feb 2017 | ||||||
Hard
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5c |
★★ Nuna
![]() | Ardez | ★★ Muy buena | Mié 9.º Ag 2017 | |||||
hard
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6c |
★★ Stop it
![]() | 18m | Polveriera | ★★★ Clásico | Mar 15.º Ag 2017 | ||||
Etwas schwer zum lesen...
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6c |
★★ Stop it
![]() | 18m | Polveriera | ★★★ Clásico | Mar 15.º Ag 2017 | ||||
... wenn man weiß wie dann sehr schön
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6b+ |
Pille-Palle
![]() | 14m | Rongellen | Vie 6.º Oct 2017 | |||||
Sehr komisch und scary zum zweiten Haken. Mir wars nicht wert dass ernsthaft zu probieren...
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7b |
Haplite
![]() | 13m | Rongellen | Vie 6.º Oct 2017 | |||||
Etwas schwer zu lesen aber wenn man weiß wie war der Anfang zumindest schön. Warum muss der dritte Haken so hoch sein?!
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7c |
Sittenstrolch
![]() | 15m | Ellhorn - Fläscherberg | Mar 31.º Jul 2018 | |||||
Two tries for checking the moves. Three reachy moves which are quite hard for me. Maybe when it's colder again.
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6a+ 6b |
★★ Pränatal
![]() | 20m | Flüelatal | ★★ Muy buena | Sáb 4.º Ag 2018 | ||||
Soft
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6b |
★★ Powerflower
![]() | 20m | Flüelatal | ★★ Muy buena | Lun 6.º Ag 2018 | ||||
need more traffic
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6a+ |
★★ Slabdance
![]() | 20m | Flüelatal | ★★ Muy buena | Lun 6.º Ag 2018 | ||||
need more traffic
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7a+ |
★ Schnappi
![]() | 20m | Flüelatal | ★ Buena | Lun 6.º Ag 2018 | ||||
needs more traffic. loose rock gave me some good flights
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10+ |
Unendliche Geschichte
![]() | 400m | Kirchlispitzen South | Jue 1.º En 2015 | |||||
6a,6b+,6c+,7b+,7c+,8b,8b+,6b,7a+,6b,7b+,7a
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8b+ |
★★★ Silbergeier
![]() | 160m | Kirchlispitzen South | Mar 1.º En 2013 | |||||
8b,7c+,8a+,7a+,8b+,7c+
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8a+ |
★★★ New Age
![]() | 130m | Schweizeregg | Vie 1.º En 2016 | |||||
one day ascent (5 pitches; 7a, 7c, 8a+, 7a+, 7b)
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